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mir322
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DH has proposed that we scan each document that we need to file and just have it all in the computer, with a backup CD. For some reason, I almost feel more secure with the paper documents. Any pros/cons to this system?
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We thought of doing so for our business. It can be teadious, but if you setup a nice system you can make it quick.
There's no replacement for physical storage, IMO. Electronic storage can be an excellent supplement.
Another note, CD's DO die over time. They lose data integrity. Some good quality CD's last up to about 10+ years. The cheap crap you see today I've seen become unreadable in as little as 3 years. Mind you, this is from perfect condition CD's, no scratches or weathering.
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Originally posted by mir322
DH has proposed that we scan each document that we need to file and just have it all in the computer, with a backup CD. For some reason, I almost feel more secure with the paper documents. Any pros/cons to this system?
Thanks!
This data has to be aggressively organized. Here is a scenario that seems to happen on a fairly regular basis at the different areas I have worked. One person generates a document that gets entered into the computer and then abandoned. A second person will later generate a similar document, because he did know of the original document's existence and did not have time to search the contents of the computer. A third person will later attempt to retrieve the document and will find 2 or more documents that are for the same purpose but contain different information. Confusing, you bet. It is not uncommon for this third person to just start a new document rather than attempting to figure out what the deal is with the other two. If he doesn't delete the other two, now there is an additional document. I guess my point is it has to be organized in a manner that makes it easy and intuitive to retrieve otherwise you are asking for trouble. All the file discipline that people use for paper copies often get thrown out the window when digital copies come into play.
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Originally posted by El Presidente
This data has ...
These data have ... 
"Expect me when you see me."
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:07 pm |
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El Presidente
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Originally posted by El Presidente
This data has ...
These data have ...
Here is what the dictionary has to say about the function of the word data.
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Originally posted by Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Seems pretty clear to me Gramer Nazi 
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:25 pm |
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Rolo
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It is yet another thing Americans take and dumb down.
How about 'McData'?
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Seems pretty clear to me Gramer Nazi
I suppose 'gramer' will soon be acceptable spelling for grammar, too.
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:55 pm |
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El Presidente
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Originally posted by Rolo
It is yet another thing Americans take and dumb down.
How about 'McData'?
At this risk of high-jacking this message thread, what is wrong with simplifying things? Simple things tend to break less often. It is also easier to grasp simple concepts, so simplify all you can unless the context is lost. If electricity can take the path of least resistance, why can't I? CAUTION: Make sure the path of least resistance isn't your person. Simple systems of operating tend to last longer and be more efficient, as long as it meets all the required needs, go for it. Not to say that learning a complex systems can't be satisfying and rewarding, but complexity for complexity's sake wastes time and resources, AKA the point of diminishing returns.
As far as the usage of "This data" is concerned, when was the last time you heard someone say "These information".
I now surrender to the authorities and release this message thread back to its intended purpose.
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Rolo
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If electricity can take the path of least resistance, why can't I?
It doesn't; it takes the path of NO resistance.
( and you thought you didn't need EE fundamentals!   )
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As far as the usage of "This data" is concerned, when was the last time you heard someone say "These information".
You cannot equivocate; just because two words have a similar annotation does not mean they have identical usage. Additionally, the origin, purpose, and connotation of each word differ: 'information' refers to an abstract concept in a general sense whereas 'datum/data' refer/s to specific 'information'. That is why information--a concept--lacks plurality.
Next you'll be posting in ebonics!
Consider yourself SCHOOLED.
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:00 pm |
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Path of no resistance?
Even superconducting circuits have resistance, that's what Ohms are measuring, right?
Perhaps "these data" is officially proper, but I've managed to get through a computer science degree and over a decade of software development and have never heard anyone say "these data". Maybe "these data points" or perhaps even "these datums". But then again maybe I was dozing during that meeting.
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:50 pm |
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Rolo
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Originally posted by Andrew
Path of no resistance?
Even superconducting circuits have resistance, that's what Ohms are measuring, right?
Path of NO resistance = short. ALL current will travel this route RATHER THAN other available routes.
Paths of LESSER resistance will just get less current, not ALL of the current as is the case of a short. This is called PARALLEL and there are fomulas for that.
Simple example:
Connect a 4-ohm speaker and an 8-ohm speaker in parallel; they both get power and are audible.
Now, connect a straight wire in parallel with the speakers (NO resistance); your protection circuitry/fuse should trip because all of the current is being fed back into the amplifier in lieu of the speakers.
'Datums'? O'C'MON MAN! 
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:26 am |
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Actually, Andrew is correct. There's still resistance in the wire used to short the speaker terminals. There is no such thing as zero resistance. If there were, you could have a current flow of infinite amps at zero volts. 
It is as near zero to where the infentesimal resistance is still considered NO resistance and you do get infinite current flow. Try it. 
Relative to actual components (hundreds to millions of ohms), the conductor's resistance (<1) is inconsequential. In fact, <1 is officially considered zero or ground when connected to it.
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:58 am |
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Andrew
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Maybe we can talk limits and calculus too, now.  Quantum mechanics is sure to follow.
Oh man, I think Schrodinger's cat ate the paperless documents.
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:45 am |
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Rolo
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HEHE
The importance of context: When you ask your wife at the bookstore if they have books on Schroedinger's Cat...be sure to tell her it is NOT in the Pets section.
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:09 am |
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Rolo
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Originally posted by coaster
Is that where this thread went? 
If we don't have a hard-copy, are we here?
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:09 am |
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El Presidente
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Originally posted by Rolo
It doesn't; it takes the path of NO resistance.
"The path of least resistance" was used by our instructors in Electronic Principals to remind us that as resistance increases current goes down. The phrase obviously is a simple way to remind us of a complex concept, without repeating the same thing over and over again. I had assumed that your instructors used the same language, but I guess the course was different when you went through. Besides, pointing out the exceptions when an analogy does not hold up, does not undermine the point being made.
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Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Analogy 2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY
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Originally posted by Rolo
You cannot equivocate; just because two words have a similar annotation does not mean they have identical usage. Additionally, the origin, purpose, and connotation of each word differ: 'information' refers to an abstract concept in a general sense whereas 'datum/data' refer/s to specific 'information'. That is why information--a concept--lacks plurality.
If I can't use an example right out of the dictionary ( http://www.webster.com/dictionary/data ), what should I be using? The Rolo dictionary... Oh, wait... you don't have one.
If anything, a parallel circuit works even better for my analogy, which I figured would take to long to explain and take away from my original point. Oh well, here goes.
V=the amount of work you can do, I=the amount of work being done, and R=the amount of time and difficulties involved with the work. There are three common tasks being performed represented in this case by three parallel circuits with one resistor each. If R1 and R2 stay the same and the resistance of R3 is increased, what happens to the current on the third circuit? Increasing one resistor will still increase the total resistance of the circuit as represented by R=1/[(1/R1)+(1/R2)+(1/R3)]. As far as shorts are concerned that would hardly meet the required need. quote:
Originally posted by El Presidente
as long as it meets all the required needs
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Originally posted by Rolo
Consider yourself SCHOOLED.
Considering this is a financial message board, it seemed appropriate to the audience to not get bogged down in electronic semantics. Consider me bogged. Don't worry; I had poor teachers in high school too. 
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