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Andrew
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| Google Toolbar and PageRank |
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The handy Google Toolbar displays a 0 thru 10 ranking, known as Page Rank, or PR, for each page the user visits. This value is calculated mathematically, and attempts to rank the popularity of a page, or more specifically the likelyhood of a random surfer finding that page. Unlike the Alexa Toolbar, traffic to a page is irrelevant to it's ranking.
PR is utilized by Google to determine how often to spider pages for updates. Low PR pages rarely get spidered, while very high PR pages will be spidered each day, or possibly even multiple times a day. This helps Google wisely allocate it's spidering resources.
PR has also been an important component of the Google algorithm which determines the search results on Google for given terms and phrases. Although the actual value of PR in the current algorithm is subject to debate by webmasters and SEO'ers.
Google PageRank appears to be a value that is regularly updated for pages, as external links and internal linking structures change over time. And although G does display a PR value in their toolbar, the true value is masked in many ways. Firstly, the actual value is not simply an integer value, so the displayed value in the toolbar is just an approximation. Secondly, even these approximate values are only updated for toolbar viewers on an irregular schedule of roughly 2 to 3 months.
To download, visit the following page:
http://toolbar.google.com/
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Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:32 pm |
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UnXpected
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i believe it will take 3 month to update 
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Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:29 pm |
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jukemann
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quote:
Originally posted by UnXpected
i believe it will take 3 month to update
There is no set time. Google updates when it wants to in past it was typically everyone month. Now it looks as if it is on the quarterly basis now (an update just occured last week) so going on that new theory then google will not update PR again until Jan 05 but no one really knows.
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Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:39 am |
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Sean A. William
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I think so. For mine. it takes around 3 or 4 months to update
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:35 pm |
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SnapThat
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Personally, I don't use the toolbar for PageRank at all. The main reason I use the Google toolbar is to easily search things (especially searching within a website). The blocker is pretty good too.
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Furid
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
The handy Google Toolbar displays a 0 thru 10 ranking, known as Page Rank, or PR, for each page the user visits. This value is calculated mathematically, and attempts to rank the popularity of a page, or more specifically the likelyhood of a random surfer finding that page. Unlike the Alexa Toolbar, traffic to a page is irrelevant to it's ranking.
PR is utilized by Google to determine how often to spider pages for updates. Low PR pages rarely get spidered, while very high PR pages will be spidered each day, or possibly even multiple times a day. This helps Google wisely allocate it's spidering resources.
PR has also been an important component of the Google algorithm which determines the search results on Google for given terms and phrases. Although the actual value of PR in the current algorithm is subject to debate by webmasters and SEO'ers.
Google PageRank appears to be a value that is regularly updated for pages, as external links and internal linking structures change over time. And although G does display a PR value in their toolbar, the true value is masked in many ways. Firstly, the actual value is not simply an integer value, so the displayed value in the toolbar is just an approximation. Secondly, even these approximate values are only updated for toolbar viewers on an irregular schedule of roughly 2 to 3 months.
To download, visit the following page:
http://toolbar.google.com/
BE CAREFUL!! When you download that, get the lite version. The other one submits your links back to google. A definate security risk for some.
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Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:47 am |
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Mmmamma
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| Re: Google Toolbar and PageRank |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
The handy Google Toolbar displays a 0 thru 10 ranking, known as Page Rank, or PR, for each page the user visits. This value is calculated mathematically, and attempts to rank the popularity of a page, or more specifically the likelyhood of a random surfer finding that page. Unlike the Alexa Toolbar, traffic to a page is irrelevant to it's ranking.
PR is utilized by Google to determine how often to spider pages for updates. Low PR pages rarely get spidered, while very high PR pages will be spidered each day, or possibly even multiple times a day. This helps Google wisely allocate it's spidering resources.
PR has also been an important component of the Google algorithm which determines the search results on Google for given terms and phrases. Although the actual value of PR in the current algorithm is subject to debate by webmasters and SEO'ers.
Google PageRank appears to be a value that is regularly updated for pages, as external links and internal linking structures change over time. And although G does display a PR value in their toolbar, the true value is masked in many ways. Firstly, the actual value is not simply an integer value, so the displayed value in the toolbar is just an approximation. Secondly, even these approximate values are only updated for toolbar viewers on an irregular schedule of roughly 2 to 3 months.
To download, visit the following page:
http://toolbar.google.com/
is this similar to Alexa's?
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:50 pm |
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xboxundone
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It's better than alexa as Alexa rankings can be scewed by having 5 people download it and visit your site.
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:28 pm |
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chiron
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I run both Alexa and Google toolbars in IE 6.x "just because" and quickly found that Alexa's is much more likely to be biased for pages you visit often (because your own presence is counted disproportionately), but for a first-time hit on a page, is actually much more useful than Google PR system, reason being you can hit their traffic indicator and, if it is a top 100,000 site (like Money Talk, for example), a quick click on Alexa and for the most part, with some major leeway for error, the graphs and so forth provided let you know how long a site has been around (good if you are about to do a commerce deal, etc) and if they're going into the dirt or booming. Final note on Alexa, it is seriously intrusive spyware (on you) so not only will scans like Norton often try to remove it, use it with the knowledge, as someone noted re: Google's heavy toolbar, that you are being watched... nothing's REALLY free, we all know that, right?
As for PR, Google is accurate enough, but they place such a heavy emphasis on "inbound links" or IBLs that I find PR to be more a measure of SEO (engine optimization) success on the part of the coders than a true measure of how "good" a page is. Though once again, for the top 100-300k sites worldwide, if they have a PR or 0-5 they're doing something wrong, which might lead you to wonder how smart it is to do business with them via the web. PR is also highly variable, and there is normally a 3-8 month "sandbox" from Google whereby sites get a 0-3 ranking no matter how much traffic or relevance they may have - so newer sites might look weak and be quite powerful. Is this forum thread a piece of junk? I think not, compared to many things on the web, yet the PR is 0...
Just my thoughts!
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