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Rolo
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Originally posted by ashraf
You can not become free by accepting to be occupied
But I think the chances are a mite better than that whole dictator thing. 
Do Iraqi's have Internet? They seem to enjoy voting...
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Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:59 pm |
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They've got Internet. I got some good info from an Iraqi who blogged about the situation inside Iraq just before and after the start of the war.
Iraqis should do very well governing themselves, they are generally well educated and resourceful, and the have an infrastructure to work with. And while the U.S. presence may linger for some time, the bulk of it will be gone as soon as possible, I think
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Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:40 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
They've got Internet. I got some good info from an Iraqi who blogged about the situation inside Iraq just before and after the start of the war.
Iraqis should do very well governing themselves, they are generally well educated and resourceful, and the have an infrastructure to work with. And while the U.S. presence may linger for some time, the bulk of it will be gone as soon as possible, I think
Andrew,
Iraqis are amongst the most educated in the Arab world. They surely can govern themselves by themselves without constant interference from any of the outsiders. Let us hope they will be free from oppression and occupation once and for all.
You can not become free by accepting to be occupied
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:29 am |
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Rolo
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quote:
Originally posted by ashraf
They surely can govern themselves by themselves without constant interference from any of the outsiders.
Yeah...they did a bang-up job doing that until those pesky Americans showed up.
On that note, this is one reason why those war-mongering, gun-toting Americans have their Second Amendment.
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:08 am |
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Rolo
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quote:
Originally posted by sarah
If the Iraqis are the most educated people in the Arab world, perhaps this best explains the cause of the many serious problems and prejudices of the peoples of most Arab nations.
 I don't quite follow the bouncing ball...
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Originally posted by sarah
A friend is someone who helps you to be free.
Jesus does that. ehhh...EHHH! <nudge> (need a smiley with Groucho-moving eyebrows here)
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:51 pm |
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Watched a good show on Fox news, I think it was, about some of the things going on in Iraq. One of the men whose hand was chopped by Saddam for dealing in U.S. money, is now the producer of Iraq's first "reality" TV show. They show videos of terrorists suspected of messing with their country, sort of like America's Most Wanted show. Apparently it's hugely popular. Although, the Saddam Trial could be the most popular show there for obvious reasons.
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:19 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
...Iraq's first "reality" TV show.
hrmm...dunno which is more insufferable...that, or Saddam...
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:03 pm |
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When this is over, we will have eliminated a progressive dictatorship in favor of a tripartite Islamic republic, led by the Shiites who will kick the Sunnis to the curb. You call that "better off"? I call that a recipe for civil war.
Nothing we do will help. Iraqis must, can and will do it themselves.
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:05 pm |
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What the hell does that dadaist comment even mean?
Look, the UNITED STATES helped put Saddam in power and KEEP HIM THERE. You are indicting Reagan, you idiot.
Psh, what an appreciation for "history.
You're the one who couldn't keep Gulf War 1, 2 and 3 straight. And then, confused and flailing, you called ME a traitor. LOL
Keep up the good work, dude!
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:15 pm |
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Euler
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Did I? I can't remember. I may not have voted yet. There's still much to be seen about the future of the state of Iraq.
If pressed, I could probably think of a very good argument for Saddam - especially if the Shiites get bloody with the Sunnis like they have been threatening to. Saddam and his secular, decrepit, deluded old gov't may be vastly preferable to another Iran-friendly, anti-West. Wahabbist fundy Islamic republic.
And then there is the whole question of legality of the war. "We don't like Saddam" won't exactly fly.
I'm a results guy. If Iraq fell together and healed and became a functional state working for the betterment of its citizens tomorrow, and if all 2100 of our soldiers sprang back to life and we got the rose parade and if it all somehow resulted in a net boon to the people of Iraq - I would sing the praises of the Bush administration for years. I would consider that a great way for all this to end.
On the other hand, if Iraq falls apart or slips into a Wahabbist coma or splits into a tripartite state, the results will not have been "Worth it".
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:41 pm |
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Personally, I don't think the doctrine of "Manifest Destiny" should have stopped at the west coast. 
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:22 am |
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Euler
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LOL yeah them covered wagons - they don't float too well. 
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:00 am |
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Euler
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She's rather deficient in her English faculties. Her efforts at wit often come across as a bizarre word salad.
"the surrealists bouncing ball"... utter nonsense. Nobody says that. How embarrassing for her. *cackle*
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:41 am |
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quote:
Originally posted by Euler
LOL yeah them covered wagons - they don't float too well.
hehehe...wha..? The Bearing Strait is only 20 miles...
Your desperate ad hominem's to Sarah are really, really old and only show your envy/insecurities. Also, they were never funny because they aren't rooted in truth...which IS on par with everything you say, so you are consistent, at least.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:58 am |
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Euler
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I know. I'm tired of carryin it around.
It was the constant namecalling and accusations of treachery - only because I entertain different opinions.
She can't keep facts straight - she'll say anything. She actually said Kuwait was a justificaion for OIF. LOL
She treats ashraf like she's some sort of bigot. I know it's not my battle, but I hate the "ugly American" image she promotes.
When I ranted after Katrina - with a house full of "guests whose homes had been smashed", I suggested that we NOT send money through the incompetent feds - she called me a cultist. This was probably the breaking point for me, though I had alot on me at the time.
She posted an ELEVEN THOUSAND WORD document in a thread - in its entirety. I'm supposed to just scroll and scroll and scroll - and not say anything? LOL
And just look at what passes for wit with her: "surrealists bouncing ball". She's BUILT for ridicule, bro!
But I've so been there, done that. I agree the barbs aren't as sharp when they're so predictable. It's time for a new schtick - I can see that.
Tell you what - I'll try harder.
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