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| Should we have term limits for the president of the United States? |
| Yes, one term only |
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| Yes, two terms (status quo) |
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| No limit on number of terms served |
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shanecurran
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Term limits are in place in the United States in an effort to prohibit monopolization of power. It seems to me that there are potential downsides to term limits for the position of President.
1) Policies of the administration will reflect short term goals even if these are at the cost of the long term goals (i.e. tax cuts)
2) Last minute pardons by the president.
3) Lack of bipartisan cooperation, and stalling of policies as you wait out the term for the potential of a leader from the other party.
These are just a few examples. What do you think? What are some of the pros and cons you see as it pertains to term limits for president?
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:02 pm |
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I am for one term for a period of 6 years, but I know there are some drawbacks.
1. Policies = Yes this could happen, but I would hope the official would still implement his objectives with the longterm and short term in mind that must be fulfilled until their expiration dates, that way the new official can't just cancel it by vote.
2. pardons=Will happen regardless of the term.
3. That could happen, but I would hope the American people would fire those who dont' cooperate. We hold all the power.
I like the idea of a one term official because that would help to eliminate campaigning for themselves while serving. Also, I believe it would make them concentrate more on getting things done because of the time limit.
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Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:40 pm |
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Term limits ... hmm. I think it's good that we have them. 4-8 years is long enough for one person, if they have the support of the house and senate and are able to accomplish their goals. But then we have what is going on today. We have no majority and no agreement, and not much seems to be getting done. And it's even more complicated when one party gets elected after another party has been in power and spends the whole time trying to undo legislation that the other party spent their time passing while in office. I am not a political-minded person, but is seems to me there has to be a better way than what we have going on.
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:17 pm |
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shanecurran
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
I'm in favor of one term and one term only for all elected officials. It's the need to raise money to get re-elected that's at the heart of the problems with our government these days.
I don't understand the argument about raising money. What is the difference between raising money to get re-elected and raising money to get elected for the first time?
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Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:24 pm |
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shanecurran
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I see, the point. You are not talking about all the money wasted campaigning.
It is a great point, and I agree it would take some of the power out of the lobbyists hands. What do you think a proper term length would be for the president? 6 years maybe 8 years?
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:02 pm |
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As with any job though, you gain experience as you work it. And with years of experience, we can get better at our jobs.
How many of us have started a new job and felt totally lost at first? Just something to think about. 
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:47 am |
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shanecurran
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quote:
Originally posted by payment proof
As with any job though, you gain experience as you work it. And with years of experience, we can get better at our jobs.
How many of us have started a new job and felt totally lost at first? Just something to think about.
I agree completely and I think if there were only one term, then a longer term length should be instituted as well. Another benefit of longer term length would be less money wasted on campaigning as they would happen less often.
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:59 pm |
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Maybe the founding fathers did not intend public office to be a "Job", but then again I don't think anyone is running for president because of the salary. You cannot change peoples behavior and you can not remove self interest. What you can do is set up a system that takes this into account and does the best it can for the greater good. I do not envision a system of government where the president would not benefit from experience. In order to get things done the president has to know what types of compromises need to be made, and a newcomer is not going to be well versed in the art of balancing the two parties.
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:33 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
It's going to take big change, but big change isn't going to happen until the citizens of the country start thinking outside the box they've been trained to stay in.
I understand your argument. It is possible to argue cause and effect of one policy change given all else equal. When the argument is to completely change the system, professing knowledge of the result involves a lot of hand waving.
The problem is that although the resulting society would be better, it comes with the costs of revolution. Are you sufficiently unhappy with the current situation that you would be willing to go through a revolution?
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:48 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
Five years, but I can't explain that without detailing the rest of my plan, and I'm not quite ready to post it yet.
Any progress on your plan? I am interested to see what you propose.
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