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asheef
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Many countries had rewarded cash prizes to catch laden. Actually where is he?
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lolz0rd
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no one knows that answer, maybe in a tunnel
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Mon May 15, 2006 7:12 pm |
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MannyS
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I believe he is dead. Not by the hands of our troops, but by the hands of nature. He's supposedly had kidney or liver failure of some sort. But I'm sure someone is going to provide me with a link that proves me wrong, but I'll counter it with a link that proves me right.
What I'm trying to conclude is we won't really know until we get it. I remember reading from time to time that he died in December of 2001. I remember reading that Pakistan had caught him. I remember reading that Chinese troops had killed him. I remember reading a lot of things about him.
But with 6 billion people in the world, trying to get the correct and accurate information is hard. It seems to me that it comes down not to the truth, but to the amount of believe you put into the answer.
I do believe he is dead. I do believe he is gone. Obviously as you guys can tell, I have an open mind. I find myself skimming through ultra left and right websites and just taking in information. Generally it's the incorrect information, but eh... 
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Sun May 28, 2006 12:56 am |
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But he sends audio tapes periodically to Al-Jazeera. And it's said to be confirmed that it's his voice.
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Sun May 28, 2006 1:46 am |
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MannyS
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
But he sends audio tapes periodically to Al-Jazeera. And it's said to be confirmed that it's his voice.
Can you really trust the person that is confirming it?
I can go into a huge list of details and I'm sure you could counter them and we'd go back and forth, wasting our time.
Bottom Line: We don't know where he is. Some people in the world, but us, at this forum, do not.
But I believe he is dead.
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Sun May 28, 2006 3:26 am |
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coaster
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Well that's true, true, and true. However, I believe he's alive, and I believe the U.S. and Pakistani governments know approximately where he is.
Belief is faith in something you can't prove. And we're not priveleged to the facts, so it can't be proved one way or the other.
But I do find it kind of curious that you say you "have an open mind" but you seem to have your mind made up (nothing wrong with that) but yet don't seem to want to entertain different opinions (not a characteristic of an open mind.)
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Sun May 28, 2006 3:39 am |
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MannyS
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
Well that's true, true, and true. However, I believe he's alive, and I believe the U.S. and Pakistani governments know approximately where he is.
Belief is faith in something you can't prove. And we're not priveleged to the facts, so it can't be proved one way or the other.
But I do find it kind of curious that you say you "have an open mind" but you seem to have your mind made up (nothing wrong with that) but yet don't seem to want to entertain different opinions (not a characteristic of an open mind.)
Open mind as to all the "information" I've taken in. In this day and age, not all information is true. It's easy to doubt everything. With communication such as we have today, so many things come in at once that verifying what is true and what is bs is harder then ever.
So taking all the "information" and linking it together, I come to my conclusion.
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Sun May 28, 2006 4:47 am |
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coaster
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Maybe some of the forum members reading this thread would be interested in reading some of the same information that led you to your conclusion, if you'd care to share links to them.
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Sun May 28, 2006 12:34 pm |
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IS THERE a charismatic, romantic Robin Hood figure living it up in the middle east, thumbing his nose at US authority, assembling a a growing troop of "merry men" fanatically devoted to his command?
Hm. Wouldn't that be really stupid and careless if you thought he was dead... but he really wasn't? It'd pretty much invalidate all your thinking on the topic.
It's a pretty seminal point: ARE we the Keystone Cops? Or aren't we?
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Sun May 28, 2006 7:08 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by MannyS
I believe he is dead. Not by the hands of our troops, but by the hands of nature. He's supposedly had kidney or liver failure of some sort. But I'm sure someone is going to provide me with a link that proves me wrong, but I'll counter it with a link that proves me right.
What I'm trying to conclude is we won't really know until we get it. I remember reading from time to time that he died in December of 2001. I remember reading that Pakistan had caught him. I remember reading that Chinese troops had killed him. I remember reading a lot of things about him.
But with 6 billion people in the world, trying to get the correct and accurate information is hard. It seems to me that it comes down not to the truth, but to the amount of believe you put into the answer.
I do believe he is dead. I do believe he is gone. Obviously as you guys can tell, I have an open mind. I find myself skimming through ultra left and right websites and just taking in information. Generally it's the incorrect information, but eh...
You could be right...and you could be wrong.
Osama bin Laden is only one person but his influence over the people fighting for his cause is so huge. What we see in Iraq and Afghanistan is a clear indication that his influence is even growing - regardless of whether he is alive or dead. You are not fighting only one person but rather you are fighting his ideology and his cause.
You can not become free by accepting to be occupied
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Wed May 31, 2006 11:15 am |
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cmon guys,
you gota be kidding  he is alive and
will be as long as he is the "poster boy" of
gwb's "war on terror" [war for oil] b.s.
they've had him in their cross hairs but
he just seems to get away at the last
second,why?
he is worth more alive than dead to gwb 
they have had him heaps and keep leaving
the back door open for an easy escape 
lets hope liver/kidney failure gets him 
then gwb will need a new "poster boy"
for their "war on terror"[war for oil]b.s.
and for the enraged,check the "peak oil"
web sites and read it for yourselves.
dont be stooged any longer 
many thanks,
jim.
"Two days ago i saw a vehicle that'll haul that tanker.You wana get outa here,you talk to me"
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:55 am |
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TeenInvestor
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I strongly believe he is alive, if he wasn't then we would jump all over the opportunity to spin it.
Military experts are on record as saying they know with a fair amount of accuracy where he is. It is just not a viable option to go get him, they say he is in the area where Pakistan has no control, where the tribal groups run things.
And those tribal groups love Osama, if we went after him Pakistan would likely face a civil war which would be terrible for both the U.S and our ally Pakistan.
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:06 am |
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avenger
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to teenInvestor,
the "military experts" you refer to are puppets
of gwb and his cronies
those guys just do and say what they are told
like all good soldiers do. 
[no disrespect to the "grunts" on the ground]
if they really wanted him do you honestly
believe they would give a flying f about pakistan?
the CIA trained,armed and funded him for years while he and
his crew fought the russians on the afgany border.
if they wanted him they would of had him long ago.
dont be a stooge for polititions
and reject their bs propaganda
power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely
many thanks,
jim.
"Two days ago i saw a vehicle that'll haul that tanker.You wana get outa here,you talk to me"
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:36 pm |
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coaster
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quote:
Originally posted by avenger
...power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely
Jim, you read Richard Maybury by any chance?
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:57 pm |
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avenger
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hey tim,
whos richard maybury? no,no i dont.
i hope thats not a cheap shot insult 
i might sound like a doomsdayer however
thats just not me.i want everything to be
sunshine,rainbows and lolipops.
its hard to live in denial for me,what with
illuminati and old family money at the
helm of the ship of fools we all sail on.
just ask monica what goes down in the
oval office[pardon the pun]
it is not hard for a person of average
intelligence to see our lives are in the
hands of madmen.
many thanks,
jim.
"Two days ago i saw a vehicle that'll haul that tanker.You wana get outa here,you talk to me"
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