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Bils keep coming,
sallaries are low. The situation is dim, that is why I am investing into mutual funds (who are eaten by bank fees and taxes). At least I can get something out of mutual funds. Not much, but at least it's something. F*ck it!

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Post Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:37 am
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So... is it safe to say that day trading didn't pay off for you? Shocked

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bills keep coming: you need to get out of debt, you can't retire comfortably with debt

salaries suck: ask for a raise, read about the "latte factor"

bank fees: you can invest in a good fund for 0.1% a year, its called an index fund... a discount brokerage shouldn't charge you fees

taxes: why aren't you using an IRA

etc
Post Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:08 pm
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quote:
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So... is it safe to say that day trading didn't pay off for you? Shocked


ROFLMAO!!!!


The picture I'm getting is that you, Day Trader, do not have CONTROL over your finances. Make a financial statement so you know what you have and so you can tune accordingly to meet your goals.

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quote:
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ROFLMAO!!!!


I'm glad someone appreciated my comment... Razz

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Post Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:11 pm
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Sounds like a budgeting problem. Rolo nailed it on the button. You need get a grasp on money management, and things may start to turn around for you.

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When I was grossly underemployed I decided to bite the bullet and contribute 15% to my 401K.

Figured that I needed to get use to less money for when my car died.

Anyway, my take home actually went up!!!

Told a few co-workers about this and they raised their contributions to the 401K.

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How did increasing your contribution to your 401k increase your take home pay?
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Becaue it can put you in a lower tax bracket:)

Basically Uncle same is getting his share later.

"I don't care about social security I want my money now" Ted Nugent.

Wife use to complain about me putting so much into the 401K but another agressive manover is you can dump a bunch in and borrow out.

We have dropped full coverage on both our autos. And if we have a car wreck we can borrow out of the 401K if they don't want to give us a 0 percent loan.

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Please do not borrow from your 401k. It is an absolute last last resort you-can't-get-money-anywhere-else place.

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quote:
Originally posted by Day Trader
... investing into mutual funds (who are eaten by bank fees and taxes)


No fees here...and no taxes until after you sell.

How you makin' out DT?

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Unless your tax rate is greater than 100%, your take home pay cannot be higher after 401k contributions.

take home pay = (base salary - 401k) * (1 - tax rate)
= base salary * (1 - tax rate) - 401k * (1 - tax rate)

It is nice that you can contribute amount 401k but you only end up paying 401k * (1 - tax rate) for it.

But ... you tax rate isn't > 100%, is it?
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Tax withholding was probably changed to something realistic rather than a big refund.

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Hi Day Trader:

What is it that you do for a living and what experience do you have in the financial markets? We are always looking for potential agents in any part of the world if they fit our desired profile.

If you want to PM me instead, please do so.

By the way, I think that you are making a big mistake with the mutual funds.

Best of luck to you,

Dan

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Okay, the interleaved barrage of sales pitches is bordering on spamming.

quote:
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By the way, I think that you are making a big mistake with the mutual funds.


How can that be a "big mistake"? That is misleading.

"Expect me when you see me."
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