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I've never asks you to invent a monetary replacement system for me. I don't think it needs replacing. Why would I ask you to design one?

I'm simply saying, if you, and yes, you are in the minority, truly believe that the monetary system needs replacing, then quit whining about it. Do something about. Invent a system that you can present to the masses. Some are currently doing that with Bitcoin. It's not necessarily a replacement for the current monetary system; but more of a digital version of it. But there are people innovative enough to make it happen. Bitcoin is doing pretty good.

If you want the existing monetary system replaced, then get off your A$$ and design something. But don't accuse me of trying to get you to do something like that "for me". I am not asking any such thing. Again, I don't believe the monetary system needs replacing. Maybe some improving, but not replacing. Every time you post, even with some innovative ideas, you also demonstrate how lazy you are. You want to spit out ideas and opinions, and you want everyone else to make your dreams happn. Do it yourself and quit whining.
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Article 101

The topic all ready covers all this..
and your statements are incorrect..

what if the people were provided with the option.. would they stick with monetary.. or want something new? and your race is to much of a Loser to provide them with another option I guess..
I guess people have to riot out in the street for another option destroying info structure in order to get it....

New all ways beats the old.. I guess you love monetary though this old kids monopoly game played on the kitchen table.. Otherwise Your girlfriend monetary gets pissed..

Your just to lazy to pick up a peace of chalk to the drawing board.. so you will make any psycho excuse to escape.. even though you know it needs to happen.. thats why you wont talk over a new system with me.. and keep derailing the conversation to what you want it to be...

21st century System designed by the people for the people.. That will Out Do Monetary in every single way!

But I guess Christ corps would foolishly say its not needed.. I guess he thinks advancement or Improvement is not necessary!

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!


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I can say it A billion times.. something made TODAY.. Durring the 21 Century Is far supperior then anything from 3000 years ago.. I cant beleive you guys are all defending some rock turd.. Instead of trying to come up with something Better.. And you know something better then Barter and Monetary exists!



There is another Monetary system in force that you may not know about. The SDRs (special drawing rights) are a basket of currencies - dollar, juan, euro, and a dozen others - that the IMF uses to re-balance reserves among nations. This form of currency is available only the the governments of nations and controlled by IMF. At one point $240 billion of SDRs was moving around in the 2007, 8, 9 era. The public & the regional banks were busy with the housing crisis, etc, so the SDR activity was barely noticed. This Monetary System was invented in the 1960s and has been used a few times. In a way, it substitutes for gold. All of the gold ever mined in the entire world since time began is a stack about 60 ft X 60 ft X 60 ft - ie, about the size of a single medium sized building. As the world commerce grows, the amount of gold is quickly becoming way too little - thus the invention of the world basket of 'wealth", the SDRs.
Of the 21,000 tons of gold, the US has over 8000 tons- Ft Knox, Denver Mint, Phila, San Fran. #2 is Germany with 3400 tons ,then Italy, France, etc.
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Article 102

Old guy he just like to talk about random i guess. cool information old guy.. but try to.. you know keep to the topic at hand bro.. I don't know what your statement applies to.. Sounds like the same thing to me.. another Monetary system..

Improved and Advanced.. Replace old monetary... Monetary is little league Man.. for like preschooler races.

All there is.. Is barter and monetary.. Dare they come up with a 3erd option.. the legendary 3erd option will rip Earth in half and asunder.. 21st century System designed by the people for the people.. That will Replace Monetary and make Monetary look Obsolete in every single way!

I also Recall article 101 above old guys Post!

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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On a side note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_field_theory

You guys need to go read up on this..

Energy is the Resolution to a uniform field theory, is a type of field theory that allows all that is usually thought of as fundamental forces and elementary particles to be written in terms of a single field.
Energy is the..single field..


https://youtu.be/PqMpKnozE_M
https://youtu.be/o5DzHnukqac

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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"NEW, ALWAYS BEATS THE OLD?

BULL SHIITE. The "CLAW HAMMER" for pounding and pulling nails, has had the same basic design since it's design. There's no need to scrap it and come up with a new hammer. If you did, it would look pretty much identical to the existing one. So don't give us this crap about "NEW is always better than OLD.

I've had hundreds of people work for me in my time. Many times people will complain about something. About a policy, a procedure, a rule, etc. I tell them straight up. If you think something is a problem, then definitely express your opinion. BUT, that opinion better also include a recommendation or a solution. If not, keep your mouth shut until you've done your research. Without an alternative, you're just a whiner.

Well, the same advice applies to you. You don't like the current monetary system? Fine. I can respect that. Now, either provide suggestions, alternatives, and means of implementing it, or keep your mouth shut. If you're not part of the solution...... then you're part of the problem. So, in this case, being you're the only one who thinks the monetary system is a problem, you either have to make suggestions and recommendation; along with ways to implement the change, or you need to accept the fact that you are part of the problem. Assuming you insist that there's a problem.

You are blind to reality. If anyone argues your position, you degrade them and somehow claim "Victory". I understand that you're young and inexperienced. I don't hold that against you. But I do hold against you or anyone, someone who complains about something, but offers no solutions or alternative. You have a choice. If you want to complain about something that the MAJORITY don't believe is a problem, then you have to submit alternatives and solutions, or you have to accept the fact that others will not respect your opinion. And that's where we're at. It's easy to say something sucks, or that it's bad. But if you don't suggest a better way and present a feasible way to implement it, then you're simply a whiner who has nothing to offer society.
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Your statement is mostly untrue Other then perhaps the claw hammer.. but that worked good enough... your just pulling things out of your butt!

Your just mad because you cant prove me wrong! With actual real life proof.. which does not even exist!

You just want to keep playing Monetary.. and never try anything new because you know it will equate to ibetter and more smooth.. refined and Streamlined.. Knowing humanity.., which your dissing with your current statement like they will mess up when they make a new system..

If humanity gets together to make a system today.. to Obsolete Monetary.. they would prove you wrong Easy.. To easy..

When I say New.. I am talking about Computer parts style of new.. you cant win.. when there is a new computer part..
Its like saying the 2x Core Processor Monetary beats the 8x Core New and improved 3erd choice System The one that is not barter or Monetary..

Man do I have to explain this to little kids who cant grasp concepts.. Only reasion I say things like this Christ corps is to get you to Improve yourself.. You degrade me all the time and act all cool about it I guess..

When Monetary is 3000 or 4000 Years old.. and the 21st centery could put that system to shame.. with something WE design ourselves.. That Old Monetary system looks like floaters in the toilet.. Compared to the epic humanity.. If it thinks it can.. Which I guess I am starting to Doubt because you doubt humanity can I guess..

So.. Christ corps.. Can Humanity make a SYSTEM better then Barter and Monetary?
I am going to cast my vote to YES! and it WILL be more STREAMLINED and EFFICIENT.. IT WILL.. be an UPGRADE.. there is no Denying this.. Your pwnd.. Easy.. to this.. and you fight in vain! You may as well just give up.. Because you cant even Air tight Beat me.. you resort to metaphor for your arguments Structure.. I just use to help you understand.. Your the one who's reality is Skewed.. Because you pretend Monetary is SUPERMAN.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ANd we all know the truth.. even yourself.. That humanity can Easy put that to shame.. Prove me wrong.. Oh right.. I forgot.. there is no such proof to support I am wrong.. thats what makes you so mad..

I recall Article 101 and Article 102 With a Modification.. that when I say new.. I mean computer New.. Not Just whatever you can choose to pull out of the bag to support your theory!

he is Obvously Lost allready because in this topic I have said IMPROVED.. to many times..
What does Improved mean Christ corps.. and way that works? oh and Undiscovered..
Being designed by the 21 Century its obvious it would rule Monetary.. and you will never win in a million years because you have nothing to back up your statement.. just Bs.. really.. Because in Record time.. Humanity has never even tried.. its all ways a single person if anything oh.. and he uses OLD concepts.. not NEW.. and If humanity Tried.. IT would Be Successful in making IMPROVED.. ..

I dont know how many times I have to state something I have said in this topic before..

I guess its just a Psychological Circular logical Error.. And he keeps saying.. I cant computer Superior and Improved.. Over Monetary..

In your next statement.. You have lost.. and the one after that.. You will lose again.. because every time you relly on an Argument or statement with No Air tight value..

Here we go Ill just say this.. What from 1000BC when Monetary was born.. is better then Modern day items.. Kind of funny we Rely on a system from that AGE!.. Stone age Nonsense to me.. Its you who does not See reality.. You just see a Fantasy Slip.. made of Cotton paper that your Species Pretends has Value.. based on some Bs.. Because you "TRUST" it.. as it is used to Manipulate the masses..

Air tight Argument as to how I am wrong that there is not a better system that could be Created to Obsolete Monetary Please.. I am sick of your foolish Rants!

https://youtu.be/c30_wtFFIBY?list=PLvkz3CpeEjoLzPy7RMcfHzG9zwORNH2K-

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!


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Post Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:15 am
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Air tight Argument as to how I am wrong that there is not a better system that could be Created to Obsolete Monetary Please..

See'ing as Humanity can Fantasize anything it wants.. I don't know how you can win on this one!
See'ing as Anything can be made. Just like Money was Fantasized into Existence.. and Requires you to Fantasize Trust behind it.. There are to many Options.. Untested.. And Unresearched.. and Not even tried.. You cant.. its not even possible to prove me wrong.. I would not even try!

Monetary cant win against the Unknown.. Because the Unknown Wields any possibility.. And all Monetary is.. Is as you said.. A REPRESENTATION.. anything can be a representation of anything..
The cross is a symbol that Represents Christ. is the Cross Christ himself.. I highly Suspect not!!

I hope your next post is air tight to the point i cant even post a counter.. But that's Impossible!

https://youtu.be/c30_wtFFIBY?list=PLvkz3CpeEjoLzPy7RMcfHzG9zwORNH2K-

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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Well I think that ends this conversation..

In anycase Im sorry Christ Corps.. I do respect you.. I just dont respect your Argument or standpoint.. and I am not High and mighty enough to not Claim I acted like an asshole.. Thats because I get angry when I have to repeat myself..
FOR the most part because You don't offer an air tight argument..
You just tell me what I allready know.. What monetary does.. ANd i keep telling you.. Replace it with something the 21 Century Creates.. Something efficient and Streamlined..
Monetary is not Excellence though it just gets us by Compared to what the 21C can create in its place.. Streamlined and Efficient..

Just remember.. that post above this post supports that fact!

Sorry for acting like an asshole man.. But yeah.. I think this conversation is now over.. Well fought anyways..

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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"If humanity gets together to make a system today.. to Obsolete Monetary.. they would prove you wrong Easy.. To easy.. "

Again, they don't need to. Only you believe that it needs to be changed. No one else.

And no matter what you think, I don't have to PROVE YOU WRONG.....

YOU, have to PROVE YOU'RE RIGHT. And that's something you haven't been able to do. That's because you only talk about what you "Don't Like", and you you don't give any specifics of alternative solutions. It's the responsibility of the person who "WANTS CHANGE" to provide the solution. It's not the responsibility of those who have no problem with it.
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"YOU, have to PROVE YOU'RE RIGHT. And that's something you haven't been able to do. That's because you only talk about what you "Don't Like", and you you don't give any specifics of alternative solutions. It's the responsibility of the person who "WANTS CHANGE" to provide the solution. It's not the responsibility of those who have no problem with it. .


Prove it! Prove that they have no problem with it!

Every single Costumer or CONSUMER as you call them.. of the system monetary.. Because there born into it.. and forced into it without a choice.. which is Wrong.. Have a problem with it. accept for the rich and lazy!

Man I guess he cant Come up with this stuff himself.. takes me forever to explain i guess..

Once again.. Every Customer.. or CONSUMER of Monetary.. has no choice but to play monetary..
I guess there just forced free will.. there free will subjugated to some kids monopoly game! What other choice do they have.. No choice B? or C? perhaps even a D.. wow.. Once again.. No choices.. One System to rule them all I guess..

Lets go ask twentyfive random Middle class Citizens what they think about this descusion.. ask them if they have a problem with monetary if they know there is another option.. They just have no idea.. because they dont know there could be another option.. they have no idea.. in 30 seconds I predict they will go Fanatical.. and Psycho.. for another option besides this lame old fossil game.. of Dinosaur age.. from.. Long long ago.. In some cave far away..(The Cave man Version of star wars plays from a cave as he invents monetary)

To be honest with you.. Im not going to make the rule for everyone to live under.. I WANT that.. to BE FOR THE PEOPLE.. BY THE PEOPLE!!

I know what you would say next.. you would tell me that people will just try to make something thats easy to exploit.. but thats not true if the law is involved.. with professionals.. and people who make sure there are checks and balances.. To make sure its fair.. and JUST for all! After all People made Monetary.. so what excuse could you Possibly have!

https://youtu.be/c30_wtFFIBY?list=PLvkz3CpeEjoLzPy7RMcfHzG9zwORNH2K-

https://youtu.be/REw0twJ_oa8

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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No. You have to prove that we need a replacement system, you have to provide and prove an alternative. When the majority agree with something, they don't have to prove or justify it. It's the responsibility of the person who wants to change the status quo, to provide alternatives, justify those alternatives, and take the lead on implementing those changes.
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This topic covers proof as to why!

And the People need to come up with that.. WIth Professionals and Scientists.. for an Alternative.. so its done right! Making me provide an Alternative.. I could do that.. but its nonsense for me to when Everyone could make it 100X better then I can alone.. it would be Fallacy for me to do it by myself.. its like you doing a 10 man job.. wont happen.. You really should be smarter then this christ corps..

And even if i do make a system to replace it.. as I explain something of it.. You just desagree without hearing all the ins and outs.. as it gets.. Obvously complicated.. to its workings.. you just Instantly Denie it before it even makes sense to you and you understand all of it fully.. you deny it when its 10% loaded in your brain because it looks broken.. or some nonsense..

I could talk about it all day.. If someone said lets make a new system I would be like.. Whats its foundation.. Then they explain a peace to me.. I ask a question.. HOW do we fix this problem.. he is like. this is simple.. this is how.. and it also causes this Benefit.. On the other hand.. YOU.. Will just Degrade it from the start line before it even finishes in your head as a completed product.. before its even half constructed.. May as well be By the people.. FOr the people.. You just like to keep people arrested on the ground trying to do stuff like this.. With there hands tied behind there back.. while you go Psycho about how it does not work before you even Understand it fully.. SO NO.. FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE is how it should be made.. SO EVERYONE AGREES with it.. Because that is smart.. Not dumb.. like.. ONE MAN DO IT.. So that way.. Everyone knows how it works.. and can Offer Suggestions to Improve it.. And honestly.. It would be Lame of me to write some Essay on a New system.. as people dont Read books.. and I think EVERYONE should be Involved on it so its Proactive with Society. so everyone gets what is NEEDED.. .. so no Newb Corrupts it up!

this is Common sense to me.. to you I dont know.. I dont know why you cant Judge for yourself that what you just stated is not Wise.. you should really think it through before you even speak man.. Put yourself in those scenarios.. Be like.. HOW DO I ACCOMPLISH THIS SINGLE HANDEDLY>. Honestly man..
Because you keep missing the point.. If i was to put it in metaphore i think your just trying to be resistive at all angles needlessly even though you keep losing over and over..

ABout now.. Your like this mangled up Rooster and I am this badass rooster that looms over you and some how the mangled up rooster has the ability to attack with its head all limp on the ground.. while I peck at you..

Basically man.. Your just Unwisly beating a dead horse..

you keep crying the sob story while avoiding talking about my winning points even.. even though they make perfect sense.. Basically says your just Psycho about keeping it the lame same way.. I really dont know why.. You dont look at it objectively with a Impartial mind.. You love money so much you defend it tooth and nail.. Thats laughable man.. You never give up on something that is basically meaningless. Just a Rule.. Nothing more then a game we play to keep Society running.. and Nothing More..

And now you are trying to give it to me to do.. which you KNOW does not work.. to keep it out of the hands of Society to Construct.. Yeah.. You would LOVE to keep it out of the hands of the people I guess...

Is unnatural.. you keep fighting even though you have lost.. I usually respect that if there is common sense behind it..

What Circular Illogical and Round about Circle path will we go down this time.. Christ corps!

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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You know man.. I dont know why I waist my time responding to your posts anymore christ corps when I know you can just figure the Resalution to your own post out by now.. Contradict yourself instead of making me type up the contradiction for you.. I dont know man.. I guess you just come up with something.. you dont think about how I will counter that though you know I will.. you even know it has a counter.. i guess you just like waisting my time speaking common sense at you forever.. while you keep comming up with Easy to beat points all day.. Even easy to beat by yourself if you would just think about it.. perhaps it would solve itself in your head.. I wonder what your Madness is man.. You cant even come up with an air tight argument to the contrary..

Its like this little kid.. saying.. I DONT WANT THE WINDOWS 7 COMPUTER.. I WANT KEEP WINDOWS 98.. Even though the computer is free..
and your sick of playing his game on a Lan party.. with his lag computer..

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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And again, you avoid the truth. The truth is: There AREN'T a bunch of people running around wanting to change the monetary system. Only you. So don't give me this excuse of "WHY YOU" should develop a new system when the people can make it 100X better? The reason YOU HAVE TO, again, and again, and again,,,,,,, is because "THE PEOPLE" aren't the ones saying that a new system needs to be created.

You don't have an answer. That's fine. You have a wishful thought that you'd like to see become reality. Unfortunately, that will never happen by you simply whining about it. YOU are the one that has to design and implement it. Don't blame it on people and society. Again, they don't think the system needs to be replaced. Maybe improved on, (Just like some are doing with biitcoin), But no one, except you, is saying that it needs to be replaced.
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