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2nd American Revolution NOW: New York Protests
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Any idea on the best social sites or forums to keep up with the New York Protests? This thing is building, and I'd like to be able to see what demands are being made and/or solutions offered. I recall that the relative social sites were shut down in England a few months back. I searched facebook and twitter, but don't find anything yet. With todays technology, SMS and smart phones, what would be the most obvious place that the demonstrators would gather online? Twitter? Facebook? Anyone?

It all started here:
https://occupywallst.org/

NEWS:
http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/147351/social-networking-spurs-wall-street-protest

LIVESTREAM ISN'T LIVE:
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

RELATIVE?
http://tinyurl.com/monged

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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:14 pm
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From Yahoo News:
"Rage" against Wall Street power clogs sidewalks: Protesters complaining about the unchecked power of the financial industry staged noisy demonstrations that slowed pedestrian traffic on Wall Street for a third day on Monday, vowing to continue "for as long as it takes" to achieve vague demands.

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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:18 pm
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I don't think the protest was big enough to call it the 2nd American Revolution. But it sure got some notice.

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They're playing right into the hands of those who are distracting their attention from where the real problems lie. Mad

I think it bears remembering what Hitler's Propaganda Chief, Dr. Joeseph Goebbels said. And I think we see it at work in this country today.

Only, perhaps, with the power of media and the internet, The Big Lie has a hundred times or more the power to deceive than it had in Germany in the 1930's.

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What does the protest want to achieve?

Don't make the mistakes our country made. We replaced a dictator with a less than effective leader. We overthrew a corrupt president with an even bigger, more corrupt one.

Have a clear idea what you want as an end result. And choose your leaders wisely.

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I began following this yesterday, and the live stream tweets are claiming that THIS WILL BE GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME (bold caps). They do have a central website; http://occupywallstreet.org, and it does have a forum and chat; and so there is definitely potential.

I'd like (hope) to compare it to what's going on in Israel; where they're protesting high prices on commodities (monopolies). Israel is doing studies to determine exact costs, and will then regulate costs. The US Consumer Protection Bureau could be used to do this here.

On another note, for those who might be interested:
Ezekiel 38 war prophecy may be materializing. At least, the Jewish sites and Rosenberg seem to think it is.

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Are they coming up with any proposed solutions on how to go about this mess or are they just demanding change. I would say they would probably be more effective if they had some concrete steps to implement as opposed to just protesting.

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Are they coming up with any proposed solutions on how to go about this mess or are they just demanding change. I would say they would probably be more effective if they had some concrete steps to implement as opposed to just protesting.


The protesting is intended to cause (or force) Washington to make some needed reform. Washington saw this coming. Read the last link in the first post.

The true unemployment rate is near 25%. Those on disability and retirement income are 19%. Add the two...

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Coaster, please clarify (speak out)

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Very briefly:

Find a common scapegoat; detract attention from the real cause.

It's easy to hate faceless entities, especially entities perceived as having money, making money. It's easy to assign them evil motives.

Faceless entities like institutions (Wall Street), big banks, large corporations are neither inherently good nor inherently evil. In fact, they are inherently amoral, having no codes of conduct, no ethics, no intent. Therefore you can assign them none.

How is it then that these entities can do things which produce harm? These entities can only operate under the rules and regulations of the countries in which they do business. It's the rules and regulations that determine what their behaviors are; what defines their codes of conduct. If there isn't a rule against it, then it's seen as being an acceptable practice.

Who is responsible for these rules and regulations? Who made it possible for these entities to engage in practices that produced a worldwide financial meltdown? Yes, the very same as the ones pointing the biggest fingers and making the most public outcries: those who don't wish to be seen responsible for those rules and regulations.

Figure it out.

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Originally posted by coaster
Figure it out.


More like "wait and see". Vaguely, can you imagine what this might look like from the parallels?

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Just In:
Anonymous (hackers) announce a nationwide "Day Of Vengeance" to take place in dozens of cities across the USA on Saturday - September 24, 2011 at High Noon.
https://occupywallst.org/article/communique-from-anonymous-usa-day-of-vengence/

RenegadeEconomist Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORZuVK-it9E

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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
Very briefly:

Find a common scapegoat; detract attention from the real cause.

It's easy to hate faceless entities, especially entities perceived as having money, making money. It's easy to assign them evil motives.

Faceless entities like institutions (Wall Street), big banks, large corporations are neither inherently good nor inherently evil. In fact, they are inherently amoral, having no codes of conduct, no ethics, no intent. Therefore you can assign them none.

How is it then that these entities can do things which produce harm? These entities can only operate under the rules and regulations of the countries in which they do business. It's the rules and regulations that determine what their behaviors are; what defines their codes of conduct. If there isn't a rule against it, then it's seen as being an acceptable practice.

Who is responsible for these rules and regulations? Who made it possible for these entities to engage in practices that produced a worldwide financial meltdown? Yes, the very same as the ones pointing the biggest fingers and making the most public outcries: those who don't wish to be seen responsible for those rules and regulations.

Figure it out.


And as I said in another thread, it is government's fault.

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Corporations own government. Watching the live feeds, they don't yet appear focused or empowered. Will all depend on leadership, on principals to step forward (iffy).

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And as I said in another thread, it is government's fault.

Yes, and who is responsible for the government?

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