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J S Machine
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I have only had one thread here on this forum and I got some very good advice from it. You can read that thread here: http://www.money-talk.org/thread11853-0-asc-0.html
Since then, I have bounced my checking account and finally just had enough. I came up short on money last month and almost didn't get the bills paid. In an effort to juggle the bills and make everything, I ended up going negative in my checking account. Mostly because of the stupid use of a debit card for very small purchases that were unecessary. Long story short, one check turned in and made the account negative followed by eight debit card charges. When this happened I was charged an overdraft fee for nine items. The overdraft fee is $32, so you do the math. $288 in overdraft fees and the bank will not give it back or have any mercy.
In all honesty, I needed this lesson to slap me in the face and get my mind going in the right direction. I have since stopped eating out every morning, noon, and night and in the process will have saved approximately $400 alone at the end of this month.
A friend of mine suggested that I read some of Dave Ramsey's material and even let me borrow two books. At the end of those books I will now make s couple of statements:
1. I will never own another credit card again (even though I have only had one the entire time)
2. I will never borrow money again,
3. I will work as hard as I can to get my debts paid off and get my life started the way I should be living it - instead of paycheck to paycheck.
The main thing I need to know is the best way to get started doing a budget. I mean do I simply just start writing down everything I spend? Is that all?
Thanks for the advice you guys have given so far and I look forward to your replies.
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Cherryl Hanson-Simpson
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Step 1 - Record compulsory expenses
Write down all your regular monthly expenses- groceries, transportation costs, utilities, rent or mortgage, - all those bills that you must pay every single month.
Step 2 - Record periodic expenses
Consider those bills that don’t come due every month - cooking gas, car repairs, or school fees. These are expenses that definitely must be paid at some point, but they don’t hit you every month. People usually have trouble meeting their budgets because they don’t plan for these expenses. Although these bills are not paid monthly, you still need to make a monthly allowance for them in your expense list. To do this, look at the total amount you expect to pay for the entire year for the expense and divide that amount by 12. This will give you the average monthly cost.
Step 3- Estimate a reasonable amount to spend on non-essentials
Make allowances in your budget for items that you really don’t have to spend on, but you usually end up buying anyway. Clothing, home decorations, entertainment, and gifts are some of those expenses that we tend to spend money on without thinking of them in the overall context of the bigger budget. We will spend whatever is in our pockets, or worse charge it on the card, without establishing a limit on how much we are really allowed to pay. Work out an amount that you can spend on non-essentials and stick that figure every month. If you didn’t use your budgeted allocation for one month, you can carry forward that figure for future months.
Step 4- Make allowances for emergencies
Look at your past year and see how much you spent on unexpected costs such as home repairs, or medical bills. Divide the total amounts you spent for the year by 12. Then put an average monthly figure in your current budget for these eventualities. If you put aside a little bit each month for life’s emergencies, you won’t be completely taken by surprise.
Step 5- Record all sources of income
After listing all your expenses in categories, the next step is to write down your income sources. If you receive remittances or interest payments in addition to your regular salary, include these amounts.
Step 6 - Subtract expenses from income
Take the total of your monthly expenses from your total income figure, and this will give you a budget shortage or surplus figure. If you’re in negative (as most of us are) this is your target amount to reduce spending or increase earnings. If you are lucky enough to have a surplus, don’t spend it! Invest it instead towards your future financial goals.
You can get a budget form by visiting our site.
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:40 pm |
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No-Brainer
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Dave has an enormous following and makes a fortune selling books, but that lifestyle is not my idea of a way to live.
The rude awakening you had was to realize, it's EXPENSIVE to be broke! Then when you start getting hit with late fees and penalties on top, it makes it extremely painful, so taking your course of action seems intellegent.
What I suggest is to also leave the door open for a much more enjoyable solution. Just go make enough money that you ALWAYS have a cushion in your account to cover any contingencies, then enjoy spending for sheer pleasure.
I find that a LOT more enjoyable than squeezing the nickel until the Indian is riding the buffalo. (if you are from the USA)
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quote: The overdraft fee is $32, so you do the math. $288 in overdraft fees and the bank will not give it back or have any mercy
I guess I should thank you - I am age 70 and retired - and I get free checking from my bank. I have realized for a long time that the younger generation, who doesn't pay a lot of attention to their spending, are making free checking possible for me by continually paying fines & fees, that pretty much covers the bank's overhead..
But I'm not sure that your conclusions are correct. Eg, I use a Visa card for literally everything I buy, right down to a 99 cent thing at McD's drive-thru - I seldom use cash. But I have yet to pay interest or a fee for the Visa, in fact they pay me Rewards for using it. A cc is just a tool, it doesn't cost extra to use it - but never borrow money from them - maybe that could be your rule?
And you stopped going out for breakfast? We go out every morning at about 6:00 - I figure it costs about $3000/yr - and I plan to keep right on doing it
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No-Brainer
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quote: Originally posted by oldguy
quote: The overdraft fee is $32, so you do the math. $288 in overdraft fees and the bank will not give it back or have any mercy
And you stopped going out for breakfast? We go out every morning at about 6:00 - I figure it costs about $3000/yr - and I plan to keep right on doing it 
Hooray for you oldguy!
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quote: Originally posted by J S Machine The main thing I need to know is the best way to get started doing a budget. I mean do I simply just start writing down everything I spend? Is that all?
That's what I'd recommend doing for at least three months. You can't make a budget if you don't know where your money's going. The other advantage is that it really opens your eyes as to how much of that spending is rally unnecessary.
But you have to track every cent, and I do mean every cent.
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quote: Originally posted by Cherryl Hanson-Simpson Step 1 - Record compulsory expenses
Write down all your regular monthly expenses- groceries, transportation costs, utilities, rent or mortgage, - all those bills that you must pay every single month.
Step 2 - Record periodic expenses
Consider those bills that don’t come due every month - cooking gas, car repairs, or school fees. These are expenses that definitely must be paid at some point, but they don’t hit you every month. People usually have trouble meeting their budgets because they don’t plan for these expenses. Although these bills are not paid monthly, you still need to make a monthly allowance for them in your expense list. To do this, look at the total amount you expect to pay for the entire year for the expense and divide that amount by 12. This will give you the average monthly cost.
Step 3- Estimate a reasonable amount to spend on non-essentials
Make allowances in your budget for items that you really don’t have to spend on, but you usually end up buying anyway. Clothing, home decorations, entertainment, and gifts are some of those expenses that we tend to spend money on without thinking of them in the overall context of the bigger budget. We will spend whatever is in our pockets, or worse charge it on the card, without establishing a limit on how much we are really allowed to pay. Work out an amount that you can spend on non-essentials and stick that figure every month. If you didn’t use your budgeted allocation for one month, you can carry forward that figure for future months.
Step 4- Make allowances for emergencies
Look at your past year and see how much you spent on unexpected costs such as home repairs, or medical bills. Divide the total amounts you spent for the year by 12. Then put an average monthly figure in your current budget for these eventualities. If you put aside a little bit each month for life’s emergencies, you won’t be completely taken by surprise.
Step 5- Record all sources of income
After listing all your expenses in categories, the next step is to write down your income sources. If you receive remittances or interest payments in addition to your regular salary, include these amounts.
Step 6 - Subtract expenses from income
Take the total of your monthly expenses from your total income figure, and this will give you a budget shortage or surplus figure. If you’re in negative (as most of us are) this is your target amount to reduce spending or increase earnings. If you are lucky enough to have a surplus, don’t spend it! Invest it instead towards your future financial goals.
You can get a budget form by visiting our site.
Thanks for sharing such good information about budgeting, it will surely help many people.
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If we are going to earn money to meet our obligation and save enough to have something for the future, its essential that we plan .You can't get along in this world without money. We all ought to both save and spend at the same time. To obtain and keep money we have to be savvy. There is responsibility that goes with the handling of money.It is the everyday financial activities needed to manage personal economic resources, while focusing towards long-term financial security. Spending money on present living expenses reduces the amount you can save and invest.
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I too am an avid David Ramsey listener and yes Dave is doing quite well because of his book sales, radio talk show and his disciplined ideas about money management. Here is what I would suggest:
Take a sheet of paper and keep it in your glove box of your car. Everytime you spend money on something write down what is was, when it was and how much. Do this for a month. At the end of the month review the expenditure and use this to help make a budget. Now if you you have any experience in Excel, create a budget that does the math for you. Simply list your expenses on a single column based on how much you plan to spend on items such as clothing, food, going out money and normal bills such as electricity, heat, etc...) Than below that put your net income and setup the math so that it subtracts the expenses from your montly income.
Next, and this is the neat part. Take cash out for the daily expenses and label envelopes that are called things like, grocery money, going out money and clothing. This money is all you can spend for the month. The great part about his system is that unlike credit cards you can only spend the money you have and no more for the month. When you use credit cards you have no concept of money, it is to easy to whip it out to buy something because you don't feel real money actually leaving your wallet and you end up spending less.
So bury those cards and become financially independent.
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quote: Originally posted by Cherryl Hanson-Simpson Step 1 - Record compulsory expenses
Write down all your regular monthly expenses- groceries, transportation costs, utilities, rent or mortgage, - all those bills that you must pay every single month.
Step 2 - Record periodic expenses
Consider those bills that don’t come due every month - cooking gas, car repairs, or school fees. These are expenses that definitely must be paid at some point, but they don’t hit you every month. People usually have trouble meeting their budgets because they don’t plan for these expenses. Although these bills are not paid monthly, you still need to make a monthly allowance for them in your expense list. To do this, look at the total amount you expect to pay for the entire year for the expense and divide that amount by 12. This will give you the average monthly cost.
Step 3- Estimate a reasonable amount to spend on non-essentials
Make allowances in your budget for items that you really don’t have to spend on, but you usually end up buying anyway. Clothing, home decorations, entertainment, and gifts are some of those expenses that we tend to spend money on without thinking of them in the overall context of the bigger budget. We will spend whatever is in our pockets, or worse charge it on the card, without establishing a limit on how much we are really allowed to pay. Work out an amount that you can spend on non-essentials and stick that figure every month. If you didn’t use your budgeted allocation for one month, you can carry forward that figure for future months.
Step 4- Make allowances for emergencies
Look at your past year and see how much you spent on unexpected costs such as home repairs, or medical bills. Divide the total amounts you spent for the year by 12. Then put an average monthly figure in your current budget for these eventualities. If you put aside a little bit each month for life’s emergencies, you won’t be completely taken by surprise.
Step 5- Record all sources of income
After listing all your expenses in categories, the next step is to write down your income sources. If you receive remittances or interest payments in addition to your regular salary, include these amounts.
Step 6 - Subtract expenses from income
Take the total of your monthly expenses from your total income figure, and this will give you a budget shortage or surplus figure. If you’re in negative (as most of us are) this is your target amount to reduce spending or increase earnings. If you are lucky enough to have a surplus, don’t spend it! Invest it instead towards your future financial goals.
You can get a budget form by visiting our site.
Thanks for the advice. This is really helpful
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Nice post, i found it very informative and really subjective… i hope it will benefit to other users like me…
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There is an amazing show called "Till Debt do us part". It's all about people in a hard place and making budgets to get out of it. They have people from mc donalds to doctors, all classes of life. Her website has a lot of great resourses as well. I can never remember or spell her last name valvoxide or something like that just google it.
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DaveA
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I use an excel spreadsheet I made to manage my monthly budget.
Like you, I used to struggle with bank fees and what not. I've haven't had one of those in years, however. It helps I make more money now, but it didn't stop until I decided to do something about my budget. You need to create a budget and stick to it. I struggle with sticking to my budget but have gotten better and better. I am determined to stick to it this year and if I do, I know it will be the year I save the most money.
I get paid once a month which I hated at first but now I live. It forced me to create and live on a budget. I sit down once a month to pay bills, put money into savings, etc.
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The best way to start a budget is to first right down every expense you have. A good way is dividing by when they occur, like monthly, weekly, etc. Make sure recreation, etc. is included. Every place you spend a dime.
Then you list all of your income from whatever source and when it's received monthly etc.
Good Luck...
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