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There are a lot of Corporations out there making way more money then they need to..
Sure they make products and advancement but money is getting scarce for the little guy while big corporation leaders are making a lot of money.. (Quite literately more then they could possibly spend in a lifetime)
It is going to sound a bit absurd..
But money seams to be the willpower of Humanity.. Which I hate the Concept of..
All of the Corporations and Rich people at a Certain Level of Value should pay back to the Civilian population who are poor.. Thus Breaking the Cycle of the Rich giting richer and the poor getting poorer..
This is just an Example of one of the things we could do.. and I do think My Style sounds a bit off and Unbalanced in Fair.. Even to me it kind of does not make a logical sense as they did Earn that money.. or did they? Honestly a Corporation leader makes a product.. makes a tiny upgrade even though I am Intelligent enough to know that they could do Far far more and they hire people to manage there corporation for them and make small adjustments to an Auto Sheet of Actions for his Managers to fallow and then the CEO quite literally takes 80% out of the Corporation to buy his personal things.. I Think that a Charge from a Corporation bank account to a Personal Bank account when its the Owners to the Owners.. there should be some kind of charge.. and no charge to transfer funds from his P account to his C account (Corporation is (C) and Personal is (P)).. and the 20% taken can go into a Company going bankrupt fund so if the company goes under the times that he lost 20% for Transfers could help him Revive his Company.. Small Businesses can be Exempt from this to let them Grow..
I Know this Sounds BS'ish to you but honestly think about it now!.. Us Civilians have to deal with BS charges with the bank all the time.. Like ATM Charges and Credit card BS and all kind of lame nonsense charges ware as the Big CEO has the Ability to avoid and hack around the bs we have to deal with..
IF money is going to Continue to be Humanitys willpower then the Population needs a touch more..
Money is a man made System and is backed up by man made Logic and needs to be set up a bit Weird like this to actualy MAKE it work.. OTHERWISE choose to play by the Rules of Reality as Money is a fake Man made game of Monopoly..
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Optimizing Humanity and the Monetary System (Societal Re-balance Act Stage two!) (Something we should do Research into to make the monetary system work correctly again as earth is starting to fail!)
(World Fund) - How this works is all of the Nations of the world put forth what they can Money wise to have a World Money pool which the Whole planet can Decide on what to do with.. and the Money can be spent to Improve our planet in ways such as Upkeeping the Planet.. We upkeep Our City's like they are precocious to us yet we just.. Destroy our Planet! What Use is that City if our Planet is Useless!

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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We need to get Science and Research in on this Monetary system and Reformulate Tweak and Balance the System to make it work again.. and in the future it will need to be Re-Balanced again!

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:27 pm
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There are a lot of Corporations out there making way more money then they need to..
Sure they make products and advancement but money is getting scarce for the little guy while big corporation leaders are making a lot of money.. (Quite literately more then they could possibly spend in a lifetime)


Yes, CEO's probably make too much. But the issue is so trivial, why do you worry about it? It was listed in our Paper today, the top CEO's get an average or $15,000,000/year, that's combined salary, options, stock returns. The company revenue is in the $10,000,000,000 range. Probably over half of that is Payroll. Say $5B is Payroll. So the CEOs income is $15M/$5B, ie he gets about 0.3% of Payroll, the workers get the other 99.7%. The point is, if you DOUBLED the CEO's pay, the workers still get almost 99.5% - the CEO pay is a trivial expense to the company.

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the Rich giting richer and the poor getting poorer.


I asked you in another thread, I'll try once again. What is it that you don't like about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer? Envy?
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Optimizing Humanity and the Monetary System (Societal Re-balance Act Stage two!) (Something we should do Research into to make the monetary system work correctly again as earth is starting to fail!)
(World Fund) - How this works is all of the Nations of the world put forth what they can Money wise to have a World Money pool which the Whole planet can Decide on what to do with.. and the Money can be spent to Improve our planet in ways such as Upkeeping the Planet.. We upkeep Our City's like they are precocious to us yet we just.. Destroy our Planet! What Use is that City if our Planet is Useless!


Why not a one world government with a single currency? Maybe those who believe in the New World Order can run it. Give the UN more control. Why not just skip straight to the United Federation of Planets?

Not trying to be sarcastic, but you preach saving the planet and brotherly love, but you believe that currupt governments can solve the problem. Governments more often than not are the cause, not the solution. Consumers ultimately are the solution. They are the ones who dictate technology and advances. Governments simply exploit said technologies and economies. Government doesn't want you to save. They want you to spend. They also demand consumers to be in debt and in a state of need. If the people don't need the government, then the government loses its power.

Corporations aren't the problem. CEO's making millions of dollars a year aren't the problem. Government promoting class warfare is the problem. Government convincing poorer people that their problems are caused by those who have wealth is the problem. Politicians keeping poor people poor by giving them welfare services as a way of life instead of a hand up and promoting independence and individual responsibility is the problem.

If you want the planet to be healed, get the government out of the way. Allow nuclear and other forms of energy to evolve without so much regulations. A European car, similar to one in the USA, can get almost twice the mpg because they don't have as many EPA, safety, and other government regulations to contend with. The result is a net reduction of fossil fuels vs the USA. If you include the government in your list of solutions for economic or environmental problems, then you are off base. Imagine if there were no such thing as a patent when it comes to public resources and energy? It would be like Linux vs Windows. An "Open Source" system where environmental and energy technology could advance. But the politicians are beholden to the special interest groups.
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Instead of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.. i want it to be a benafit to humanity instead of humanity dealing with a rich guy who makes 1 to 3 average products who could do so much more.. and just lives his life sitting around doing nothing. this is reality we dont have room for error..
I sware to god no one listens to me when i say these words
"We need to do Research and Involve Science"
Ignorance is not bliss and ignoring me when I talk about Science and Research is a Deadly Mistake for all of Humanity..
Hahaha Envy.. nah I dont have the Green eyes.. I quite literally live off of You guys.. and in tern I give You the gift of Advancement

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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I don't dispute that research and science are needed to make life better for all. I'm simply saying involving the government will not allow that to happen efficiently. If the government; epa, fda, etc. would get out of the way, science and technology could advance more efficiently. This would lead to greater competition among producers based on consumer demands. Energy, technology, medicine, etc. would all be better, more advanced, and more efficient.

Unfortunately, the government needs its citizens to be dependent on them. They want poor people. The want welfare programs. If people need the government, then the government has power. In our current government controlled system, a pharmaceutical company doesn't want to develop a "cure" for anything. That would put them out of business. They want to sell drugs to control a situation. Not cure it. Same with energy. Energy companies don't want to develop sustainable and renewable energy. But if the government wasn't in the way and paid by these groups, individuals and small companies would be free to develop and produce alternatives.

Much of what you speak of is good in theory. I don't argue your desire or goals. But if you include government in the process, then it can't be efficiently done. I'm not sure of your background, but I've been an electronic engineer for more than 35 years. Mostly in the computer and communications industry; but exposed to many facets. From what I've read from old guy's post, he too has an extensive background. There is much more to advancing technology and economics than simply implementing. I agree that research and science need to be involved to help our planet out. But I know first hand, having worked for both the federal and local government, that the government is most times not the solution, but rather part of the problem.
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There are a lot of Corporations out there making way more money then they need to..
Sure they make products and advancement but money is getting scarce for the little guy while big corporation leaders are making a lot of money.. (Quite literately more then they could possibly spend in a lifetime)


I'm getting the feeling that you have no idea what a corporation is. When you gather 1000 workers or so together and 'incorporate' you have a large corporation. Everyone, including the CEO, is paid a salary. If they grow and and make "way more money than they need to" , where do you think the money goes? Do you think that the CEO takes it home with him?

Exxon has about 75,000 workers - their annual revenue is about $334 Billion/yr. Their profit is about 8%/yr. So, if that is the amount of gas/oil that they have a market for, what would you have them do, quit? Break in half into 2 companies? Or merge with someone to become more efficient? Or stated differently - should we split those 75,000 workers into 10 7500 worker companies?

I often wonder how the Corporation Haters would prefer to see things done. If you go back in history, you'll see that nearly every innovation came from a corporate R&D Dept. If individuals made our cars one at a time, what do you think a car would cost? And would it have AC, radio, CC, air bags - would it even run??
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Salary is pocket change to the CEO..
And I am not saying we need to do Science and Research on Technologies and Advancments I am saying We need to do Research and Science on the Monetary System We need to Research a way to Optimize it Corectly and since it is a system of man made rules and logic it needs to have what would seam to be unfair rules and nonsense to make it work.. or we need to Research a Replacement for the Monetary system.. or we could Play by Reality's rules.. which is Real Logic!
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what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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You don't need science and research for the monetary system. Until only a few years ago, in historical times, money was backed by tangible assets. Mainly gold and silver. A country only had as much money as they had gold and silver to back it up with. We've only had problems since the 70's when our money was no longer backed by precious metals on hand. As such, they began printing debt to cover their desire to spend. You don't need science and research to know what the problem or the solution is.
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When You have a Problem You do Research to solve it and apply the solve.. or iff you know the Solve Apply the solve// applying Science is always the key..
"You don't need science and research to know what the problem or the solution is."
Then Apply the Solution! Reformulate the System.. But I Honestly would play by Realities rules instead of Man made Knowlage and Logic such as money because Money is a tool to get people to do what you want them to.. Rich people steal other peoples wives with this rod called rich he stick into her brain.. and BS like this..
What is the Problem and Solution anyways?

You know that act that made Education free up to K12..
If Corporation wants better workers then Corporation needs to pay for Collage for those Workers
We are allways pinning down the little guy with the damn bill and I am gitting sick of this BlSt Nonsense
Normally You would think that I do not care as I am allready beyond Collage.. But I do.. Because I care about My fellow man and Woman
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what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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Pinning down the little guy with the bill to make themselve's better? What a crock. If an individual doesn't have a vested interest in their future and success, why should a company? So a company pays $50,000 to send a NEW employee to college; to learn what they want them to; and the employee works for the company for 6 months and decides they don't like that company or that type of work any longer and wants to do/go something else. Does the employee have to pay back the education to the employer? What if the employee simply doesn't like the company and move on to a competitor company. Does the new company get a fully trained employee for free, or should they have to pay back the first company for the education.

You live in a dream world. If an individual doesn't have a vested interest in their efforts, then they will simply abuse the system. Maybe I can work for 5-6 different companies. Change jobs every year and let the new company send me back to college for more education. When the individual invests in their future, THEY control the power. They control their success or failure. They control their destiny. Obviously, you don't care much about individual freedom.
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You Know You Really dont think things through do you? You keep talking Dream world when I speak Reality and You Live in a Game.. Bettering Yourself should not cost money.. All that Knowledge they learn in Colage could be on the Internet and it could cost NOTHING to Teach them Knowledge.. Do You Know how Retarded Your Species is? Humanity Needs to Grow the up or soon Reality is going to take your asses down town and Brutalize your Race or worse Make Your Race Extinct.. You need to stop being Concerned with Personal Wealth and Start being Concerned with the Advancement of Your Race.. You need to be Concerned about Reality More then Fake ass Green slips of Cotton.. Every time You talk Dream world to me Remember the fact that you Literally Play a damn Childish Game of foolish Idiocy.. whats more Important? Personal wealth and this Idiotic game.. or Humanity's Future?

And the world that I dream of ia a Dream untell people make it a reality.. And it would work.. You say Dream as if Dream means it wont work when Science and Research and Reality Dictates the fact that there are other options.. Everything starts off as a dream before someone like me or you or everyone makes it a reality.. Like Flight by those brothers or the Light bulb that took 250 Tries to make by that one Really cool Inventor scientist.. It is an Absolute Reality that can not be denied or be Refuted that We can Invent a Better way then this Silly Game called Monetary!
Take this to Heart when I say it to You and Understand its full meaning.. Change, Adapt, Advance, Ascend and Transcend in the Name of Love and Humanity!
And Now I will explain how it works.. You "change" from the Money System.. You "adapt" to the New way and "adapt" the new way to work better fine tuning it for Humanity's success.. You "Advance" as People and Humanity "Advances" You "Ascend" Helping Humanity to "Ascend" Creating A Higher Platform for Our Next Generations to "Transcend" there problems.. And Transcendence is this what i just now Explained to you.. Change, Adapt And Ext Ect..

I will use the Monitary game as an Example of Change..
Imagine this Scenario.. I just walk out of my house and enter a Business and check there load status and find out they need workers for the day.. and i walk into a room and take a small computer exam to test my skills to see if i am good or bad at the job.. and then i work for a time and clock myself out.. it would kind of be the guys choice to work and sometimes companies would call you to see if you want to work for them for the day if they need people bad enough.. kind of a friendlier system there though its a little unstable but the thing is instead of learning to do one thing and then you keep doing the same job over and over again.. what happens.. you as a human being never learn anything new.. and you dont advance yourself.. I know this is somewhat flawed and this is just an example and this template could be used and perfected.. i just ranted this out of my head just now.. and thought it out as i typed.. so dont go super critical over how it does not work.. this is just an example of a possibility that could be refined to work if set up correctly and this enamor's some of my favorite things Changing Adapting and advancing and it also keeps people from being board and they can go do another job instead of the same thing every time.. but this one is a work in progress and its based on the monopoly game i hate
and Even though there is not enough jobs to do this for everyone.. though there actually is enough jobs for everyone that money wont pay for.. such as taking care of our planet
You Know We call it Planet for a reason.. You have to Plan It.. that is one of my sayings.. Planet.. You have to Plan it

I was kind of thinking to.. If it was set up like that companies would like to treat there workers a little better unless there doing dumb things.. companies would also have rules set up to ware other workers dont act like A holes to you cause they are critical about there workers.. Basically the worker is a little more valuable to the companies.. And You can gain a little Point system like Job points that makes you get things like Raises and Promotions and such.. kind of cool if you ask me.. Be awesome to me if the Companies and World Documented my skills and.. Well basically made my a personal application and when i walked through the door the companies knew who and how Awesome I am.. I Like being Awesome for the people I am Involved with.. I like to Advance them with myself.. Teach and what not.. help out them and in doing so help out humanity.. Helping out Humanity is one of my goals because helping humanity helps me to reach my next goal..

I Live what you call a Dream and guess what it works out for me even though there is money.. but Imagine This.. Everyone is all ways helping Each other out like I would.. Always Improving Each other and just Doing what needs to be done for humanity.. Improving Others is Improving Humanity and Improving Humanity Improves Your Situation and in turn they will return and Improve You.. Others will also Improve You for the Sake of Improving Humanity and You will Return Improving them.. In the Name of Love and Humanity

https://youtu.be/z5-mD6Dy7c0?list=PLZ7jA1UnWEjToYtyMSdQxBA6dcQiJrPB_ (Listen to this song and look at the Picture.. That is the Ultimate goal of Humanity.. what is depicted in that picture)

Money makes Resource waist as well.. We need to fix that..
Humanity Also needs to just share its resources for advancement of humanity for the goal depicted in that picture if you listened to the song and looked at the picture in that video.
russia Depleted there economical value researching what united states allready researched when they could have researched better technologies.. that is waist.. and THAT is MONEYS fault.. Causing competition between human beings.. Once again we should be Concerned about Humanity's Advancement.. but instead we keep others down.. I really don't understand Your Species..

You know other people have tried to run other systems to be self sustaining.. funny thing it was influenced by money.. i bet some of them may work worse or some of them may work better thebn our system.. the only thing is its kind of like a research project that does not work unless you turn the lights off.. why.. the light is like this physical reality all around the research project causing it not to work.. under normal circumstances they would abandon the project and assume the research is BS.. but they realized that turning the lights off caused it to work.. kind of funny how even though a town makes there own system and tries to work itself out.. but the system of money is a rule like light interfering with that research project.. forcing there system to fail!

https://youtu.be/M8gV9LW9Y04?list=PLZ7jA1UnWEjToYtyMSdQxBA6dcQiJrPB_

what is the difference between me and you to Albert Enestine! nothing.. only yourself! look at you! rise above yourself!
(energy equals everything squared!
sovereign light! fallow the path of light or descend!
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